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luder
Posts: 42 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:43 am | |
| this takes the cake! kinurot ang puso ko with this one. | Divinia Joy Tuzon wrote: |
"Physicians cure. Nurses care."
| Josh wrote: | If there are cases like that, it is an opportunity for us, nurses-educator, to grab the opportunity to teach caring and utmost reverence to life of our patient. Doctors are not basis for genuine care but nurses are. do you agree?
| luder wrote: | In your opinion, is it ethical (from our previous article) to you use cases regarding doctor's indifference with patients as a point of discussion of non-caring behavior in class?
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|  | | yvette
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:48 am | |
| in my opinion, nursing case presentations would fall to neither the three mentioned specific types of case studies depending on the topic or case. For example, community case presentations are oftentimes an exploratory type. cases in the ccu unit are most often an explanatory one. | luder wrote: | where would nursing case presentations fall under?
| ianenguerra wrote: |
Yin in 1993 has identified some specific types of case studies: Exploratory, Explanatory, and Descriptive. Exploratory cases are sometimes considered as a prelude to social research. Explanatory case studies may be used for doing causal investigations. Descriptive cases require a descriptive theory to be developed before starting the project.
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|  | | luder
Posts: 42 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:52 am | |
| is it your opinion then that the application of the case study method, as presented in the article, to the nursing curriculum would not be that effective? | Kriselda Anne Moreno wrote: |
Its applicability in the Philippines may be difficult. Here, we still rely in the traditional way of learning, like going to school everyday, and make teacher-student conversation. Applying this method immediately may require a lot of adjustment in the part of the teachers and the learners. But at this time, I believe that this method is slowly introduced in our education system. By allowing us to do case presentations alone, present it to the class, and make modifications in it for polishing.
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|  | | luder
Posts: 42 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:53 am | |
| i see your point it would really depend on the topic. thank you for clarifying this. | yvette wrote: | in my opinion, nursing case presentations would fall to neither the three mentioned specific types of case studies depending on the topic or case. For example, community case presentations are oftentimes an exploratory type. cases in the ccu unit are most often an explanatory one.
| luder wrote: | where would nursing case presentations fall under?
| ianenguerra wrote: |
Yin in 1993 has identified some specific types of case studies: Exploratory, Explanatory, and Descriptive. Exploratory cases are sometimes considered as a prelude to social research. Explanatory case studies may be used for doing causal investigations. Descriptive cases require a descriptive theory to be developed before starting the project.
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|  | | yvette
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:56 am | |
| ouch! my apologies, but i got hurt with the generalization. I think there are physicians who handle their patients with care. Let us not label people. I think there are nurses by profession who do not even care! I think both doctors and nurses provides care in their little and different ways. | luder wrote: | this takes the cake! kinurot ang puso ko with this one.
| Divinia Joy Tuzon wrote: |
"Physicians cure. Nurses care."
| Josh wrote: | If there are cases like that, it is an opportunity for us, nurses-educator, to grab the opportunity to teach caring and utmost reverence to life of our patient. Doctors are not basis for genuine care but nurses are. do you agree?
| luder wrote: | In your opinion, is it ethical (from our previous article) to you use cases regarding doctor's indifference with patients as a point of discussion of non-caring behavior in class?
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|  | | Kriselda Anne Moreno
Posts: 26 Join date: 2008-08-12 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:57 am | |
| No, I did not mean that it would be ineffective. I just thought that maybe if we apply this method immediately, huge adjustments would have to be made, for most of the nursing schools today still use traditional way of learning. But maybe, if slowly introduced, it would effective in the future, and might be of great help in modernizing our current curriculum. | luder wrote: | is it your opinion then that the application of the case study method, as presented in the article, to the nursing curriculum would not be that effective?
| Kriselda Anne Moreno wrote: |
Its applicability in the Philippines may be difficult. Here, we still rely in the traditional way of learning, like going to school everyday, and make teacher-student conversation. Applying this method immediately may require a lot of adjustment in the part of the teachers and the learners. But at this time, I believe that this method is slowly introduced in our education system. By allowing us to do case presentations alone, present it to the class, and make modifications in it for polishing.
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|  | | Divinia Joy Tuzon
Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:58 am | |
| Wow.. Thanks Sir Luther. I'm glad you were able to appreciate it! | luder wrote: | this takes the cake! kinurot ang puso ko with this one.
| Divinia Joy Tuzon wrote: |
"Physicians cure. Nurses care."
| Josh wrote: | If there are cases like that, it is an opportunity for us, nurses-educator, to grab the opportunity to teach caring and utmost reverence to life of our patient. Doctors are not basis for genuine care but nurses are. do you agree?
| luder wrote: | In your opinion, is it ethical (from our previous article) to you use cases regarding doctor's indifference with patients as a point of discussion of non-caring behavior in class?
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|  | | Kriselda Anne Moreno
Posts: 26 Join date: 2008-08-12 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:59 am | |
| I agree. There are actually nurses who do not "care" for their patients the way they have to. And doctors who care for their patients more than the nurses do. | yvette wrote: | ouch! my apologies, but i got hurt with the generalization. I think there are physicians who handle their patients with care. Let us not label people. I think there are nurses by profession who do not even care! I think both doctors and nurses provides care in their little and different ways.
| luder wrote: | this takes the cake! kinurot ang puso ko with this one.
| Divinia Joy Tuzon wrote: |
"Physicians cure. Nurses care."
| Josh wrote: | If there are cases like that, it is an opportunity for us, nurses-educator, to grab the opportunity to teach caring and utmost reverence to life of our patient. Doctors are not basis for genuine care but nurses are. do you agree?
| luder wrote: | In your opinion, is it ethical (from our previous article) to you use cases regarding doctor's indifference with patients as a point of discussion of non-caring behavior in class?
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|  | | silva731
Posts: 35 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:59 am | |
| Sorry for the late post…. What I really learned from this paper is that as an educator, case studies could really provide a positive and engaging experience for students, but if this will not be guided properly, they may not necessarily promote concept learning. Case study is a constructivist pedagogy that can address some of the problems facing higher education here in our country. This method could enhance the student’s interest and focuses on what is relevant about the subject, and still our aim is to improve learning. What really caught my attention are the three established principles about learning that can be used to promote educational reform. This is just what we have learned in instructional design that first, students come to the room with different conceptions based on previous knowledge. Second, there is development of competency in a discipline that requires a deep foundation of factual knowledge. Third, Students can learn to take control of their own learning through the metacognitive approaches that define the learning goals and help them assess their progress. This paper showed me how these three concepts can help educators design interesting learning experience for their students with the use of cases. |
|  | | yvette
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-12
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Posts: 42 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 1:09 am | |
| ladies and gentlemen, i would like to apologize. i have to call it a night, unfortunately. let me leave the forum with this final question for your consumption. we value all our experiences and the experiences of others because this is one way of enriching our lives in the future. my question is, what is your favorite color? im just messin' with you! seriously, this is a very difficult teaching method. would you consider using this in your practice? and im not talking ideal. with the way things are in our schools, what are the possibilities? thank you guys for a lovely discussion! keep it alive! |
|  | | luder
Posts: 42 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 1:12 am | |
| in what way can educators make learning interesting by using the case study method? | silva731 wrote: | Sorry for the late post….
What I really learned from this paper is that as an educator, case studies could really provide a positive and engaging experience for students, but if this will not be guided properly, they may not necessarily promote concept learning.
Case study is a constructivist pedagogy that can address some of the problems facing higher education here in our country. This method could enhance the student’s interest and focuses on what is relevant about the subject, and still our aim is to improve learning.
What really caught my attention are the three established principles about learning that can be used to promote educational reform. This is just what we have learned in instructional design that first, students come to the room with different conceptions based on previous knowledge. Second, there is development of competency in a discipline that requires a deep foundation of factual knowledge. Third, Students can learn to take control of their own learning through the metacognitive approaches that define the learning goals and help them assess their progress.
This paper showed me how these three concepts can help educators design interesting learning experience for their students with the use of cases. |
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|  | | Divinia Joy Tuzon
Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 1:21 am | |
| I’m sorry Ms. Yvette but it’s not my intention to offend anyone. Just what I’ve said, I’m not generalizing and labeling people here. If you were able to read my other comments, I also pointed out that the doctors play a really noble profession in our society. Also, I am aware that there are also nurses who aren’t as caring as they should be. However, if we are to consider the foundations of both profession – both their theories and practice, it is really the nurse who is involve in the caring process. Although I also stressed the significance of our doctors showing care to our patients, honestly I have never heard of “Medicine as a caring profession.” I even tried searching it on the internet but I could not find any.. Again, I don’t want to hurt or upset anyone. I appreciate your truthfulness Ms. Yvette. But again, it is just my point of view. | yvette wrote: | ouch! my apologies, but i got hurt with the generalization. I think there are physicians who handle their patients with care. Let us not label people. I think there are nurses by profession who do not even care! I think both doctors and nurses provides care in their little and different ways.
| luder wrote: | this takes the cake! kinurot ang puso ko with this one.
| Divinia Joy Tuzon wrote: |
"Physicians cure. Nurses care."
| Josh wrote: | If there are cases like that, it is an opportunity for us, nurses-educator, to grab the opportunity to teach caring and utmost reverence to life of our patient. Doctors are not basis for genuine care but nurses are. do you agree?
| luder wrote: | In your opinion, is it ethical (from our previous article) to you use cases regarding doctor's indifference with patients as a point of discussion of non-caring behavior in class?
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|  | | silva731
Posts: 35 Join date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 1:32 am | |
| case study can make learning interesting for students because we use real life situations that could promote or teach the concept we would like them to learn. As what the paper have said that students come to the room with different knowledge and for all we know these knowledge might resist change if we do not use or relate them to real life situation as structured in a case study method of teaching. This will be interesting to them because they learn with the utilization of their previous knowledge and structured in a way that it will promote learning and gaining the right knowledge. | luder wrote: | in what way can educators make learning interesting by using the case study method?
| silva731 wrote: | Sorry for the late post….
What I really learned from this paper is that as an educator, case studies could really provide a positive and engaging experience for students, but if this will not be guided properly, they may not necessarily promote concept learning.
Case study is a constructivist pedagogy that can address some of the problems facing higher education here in our country. This method could enhance the student’s interest and focuses on what is relevant about the subject, and still our aim is to improve learning.
What really caught my attention are the three established principles about learning that can be used to promote educational reform. This is just what we have learned in instructional design that first, students come to the room with different conceptions based on previous knowledge. Second, there is development of competency in a discipline that requires a deep foundation of factual knowledge. Third, Students can learn to take control of their own learning through the metacognitive approaches that define the learning goals and help them assess their progress.
This paper showed me how these three concepts can help educators design interesting learning experience for their students with the use of cases. |
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|  | | Cristina Mariano
Posts: 24 Join date: 2008-08-11 Age: 22 Location: Manila
 | Subject: Re: Discussion Forum 4 Tue 19 Aug 2008, 1:52 am | |
| Good Morning! The article emphasizes the effectiveness of the case study method and their effect on student’s learning. I believe that the 3 principles is obviously being done in nursing school’s today because we have been familiar and accustomed to having case studies since our early college years and until our major subjects like RLE in having our case presentation. The extent of the practice and implementation of our nursing faculty staffs regarding case studies, I believe that their skill in applying the concept varies. I have observed that many professors are not that experienced in the area of teaching and assessing the student’s prior knowledge and reinforcing knowledge that needs validation or correction from the teachers. Further preparation and mastery of the process involves experience and knowledge on the application of the pedagogy in teaching. However, the use of the principles will truly impact teaching and student’s learning. Being exposed to the actual scenario will truly allow students explore and learn throughout the process. Assessing their prior knowledge regarding the topic that needs to be discussed is very important because it sets the stage where teachers derive their idea of where to start and what to include in the discussion. |
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