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    anlorrai
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  anlorrai on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:50 pm

    Yes, I do agree with all of you guys.. the similarities of the 2 scenarios are poverty, lack awareness about their condition, lack of health care facilities that could have helpful in treating or if not in preventing further complications of their present conditions. Thanks alot calssmates.. Goodnite Very Happy

    Althea P
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  Althea P on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:49 pm

    goodnight Smile

    railibo-
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    Post  railibo- on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:47 pm

    gudnyt...

    Angel Ve
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    Case 2

    Post  Angel Ve on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:46 pm

    Good night! thank you for that fruitful discussion..

    arch_ang
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  arch_ang on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:46 pm

    goodnyt!!

    ara_portillo

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    for tonight\'s discussion.....

    Post  ara_portillo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:45 pm

    yes.. basically those are the similarities..
    Well i think that's all for our tonight's discussion.
    Supposedly we should cover up to the third case study but its too late already..
    To everyone who joined the forum, thanks a lot for your insights and ideas.

    Good night!

    arch_ang
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  arch_ang on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:44 pm

    Similarities:
    Poor accessibility of hospitals
    Lack of information especially on high-risk conditions
    Poverty compromises health

    Althea P
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  Althea P on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:43 pm

    Both cases can be related to poverty. the main reason why they do not seek health consultation or even if they do, they don't comply to the given prescriptions. The lack of resources, as well the accessibility to health care is inadequate.

    Angel Ve
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    Case 2

    Post  Angel Ve on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:42 pm

    I agree Ara. Similarities include poor socio-economic status, their lack of knowledge and problems with the medical services.

    railibo-
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  railibo- on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:42 pm

    Similarities is that they are both victims of inadequate health care delivery system

    ma. cristina arroyo

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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  ma. cristina arroyo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:42 pm

    i agree.

    the similarities between Lata and Amparali is that they are victims of poverty, and thus suffered from the complications of high-risk pregnancy.
    In both situations, health care delivery system is at the center where in needs to be improved as to provide care and save lives.

    arch_ang
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    Post  arch_ang on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:40 pm

    miss arroyo,,,hehe
    yAh, there should be a car service in the health centers for tansfers of patients...
    or if the government could provide in strategically locating hospitals in every bAranggay? (sound unrealistic...) haha

    railibo-
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  railibo- on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:39 pm

    I agree with Ms. Arroyo and Ms. Verain. There are still women like her today.

    ara_portillo

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    to all..

    Post  ara_portillo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:37 pm

    kindly refocus on the discussion.. i think we have the extracted the all the answers... many things should have been done like..
    1.Lata should have not ignored her high risk status and should have disclosed the information to her family.
    2.Lata's husband should have been more involved in the care of his wife.
    3. The doctor who attented the birth should have recognized the need for Lata's immediate referral.
    4. Health facilities should have complete supplies for emergencies like this.

    do you agree or do want to add more?
    before we end, can you compare the similarities with the case of amaparali and lata?


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    Angel Ve
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    Post  Angel Ve on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:34 pm

    I agree with Ms Arroyo that transportation is very important but then if Lata was already brought to the hospital prior to delivery, if only her decision was guided by the enough information on the risks that she will experience, then there will be no emergency situation that will take place.

    ara_portillo

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    on thea's post..

    Post  ara_portillo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:31 pm

    well i think that will go back to the low status given to women affecting their decision making in terms of seeking better health for themselves..

    arch_ang
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  arch_ang on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:30 pm

    same here...we can't blame the family. like if their priority is food then the health of the pregnant wife is only secondary...
    in their case kasi, it's survival eh...hunt for food.
    hehe

    ma. cristina arroyo

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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  ma. cristina arroyo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:30 pm

    ah okay ms. yogi, i get the point, my only point is that we cannot diminished the fact that transpo here is indeed important. and i think that transpo should be provided in EVERY health care setting in the face of the planet. calling to our government officials, please provide the budget that is necessary for each health care faciltity.

    Althea P
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    Post  Althea P on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:28 pm

    I have foun one article why women tend not to ask for help regarding her health or not even telling their significant others.

    The general low status of women, and their internalization of this status, results in the marginalization of women's physical, psychological, and emotional needs (Kwawu 1994; Manderson 1994; Bhattacharyya and Hati 1995). Women are less likely than men to consult modern health services, wait longer than men to seek treatment when ill, are reluctant to spend limited resources on their own needs, and often cope with illness by self-treatment, by consulting traditional healers, or by simply living with the condition and its resulting discomfort (Mechanic 1976; Lorber 1984; Rathgeber and Vlassoff 1993; Kwawu 1994; Iqbal 1995).

    Angel Ve
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    Case 2

    Post  Angel Ve on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:26 pm

    Ms. jenny, regarding your statement on number 2. i think it was not mentioned in the case that it was a burden to the family or even to the husband. Because Lata only assumed that her husband would not pay for her delivery and made her decision right away.

    arch_ang
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  arch_ang on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:26 pm

    miss arroyo...haha

    i think the health options that ms.verain is pertaining to is the availability of blood products for the BT, should she need it. and for emergency procedures that needs to be done in relation to her risky condition...=)

    Tama b, miss angel?

    ma. cristina arroyo

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    Post  ma. cristina arroyo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:25 pm

    ms. cariaga, yeah i somehow agree at some points of your argument, but here is my view, at this time, and in reality, there are people indeed that do not have adequate amount of money to sustain all things/management needed in the whole course of pregnancy..so we cannot solely blame them for the situation.

    ara_portillo

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    on jenny's post..

    Post  ara_portillo on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:24 pm

    welcome to the forum ate jenny.. do you think it is just right to blame everything to Lata? consider the nature of Women, i mean the tendency to do self-sacrifices for the family?

    Althea P
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    Re: perinatal nursing: day 1 online discussion

    Post  Althea P on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:23 pm

    I agree with ara, because Lata did not give a clear picture regarding her pregnancy.

    Angel Ve
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    Case 2

    Post  Angel Ve on Mon 10 Aug 2009, 11:20 pm

    3. Since her husband was the familys sole wage-earner, what should he
    have done to make sure that Lata could receive the treatment she needed?

    He cannot do anything because Lata did not inform her of her condition. However, during Latas prenatal visit, his husband should have accompanied her so as to be also informed on his wifes condition. I think if both of them will be given informed choices, they will be able to come up with the correct decision and proper treatment will be given to Lata.

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